✷ [BOOKS] ✫ Les Mandarins By Simone de Beauvoir ❁ – Dolove.info

Les Mandarins A lot of people appear to dislike Les Mandarins, which I think is a pretty excellent novel, so let me try and explain what I think is good about it To me, it s basically about what happens to people particularly to women when they realize that they are no longer young This has several consequences To start off with, not being young means that you re no longer as physically attractive as you were Of course, you can go into denial, and say that as long as you eat healthily, exercise, and think positive thoughts, you re going to stay young and tasty for ever But let s be realistic The rest of this review is available elsewhere the location cannot be given for Goodreads policy reasons Mit Diesem Werk, Dem Die H Chste Literarische Auszeichnung Frankreichs, Der Prix Goncourt, Zugesprochen Wurde, Schrieb Simone De Beauvoir Den Schl Sselroman Der Franz Sischen Links Intellektuellen Er Ist Zugleich Politisches Tagebuch Und Faszinierender Frauenroman, Der Private Schicksale Und Zeitgeschichte In Konfliktreiche Beziehungen Setzt, Chronik Des Verfalls Einer Engagierten Intellektuellenschicht, Die Sich Nach Ihrem Widerstandskampf Unter Einsatz Des Pers Nlichen Lebens Nun Nicht Mehr Gefordert F Hlt There is than one way to peel the Mandarins, this is my second attempt.The Mandarins were a scholarly elite in Imperial China, word of them was brought, if I remember correctly by the Jesuits to France during the reign of Louis XIV or maybe the XVth, then abouts anyhow and it was a notion that seemed to have taken possession of the minds of the French Philosophes by the Enlightenment one can see the attraction to literary men and the occasional literary women of wise, or at least witty, literary types dominating not simply public discourse but deciding public policy and shaping the future of the country France is in this novel contrasted with the USA, so while on a visit to the USA Anne says to her hosts at one pointI had once been told that here intellectuals could live in security because they knew they were completely powerlessp.394 which I felt crystallised the mentalite the belief that to be a public intellectual in France was a position of power, but a dangerous one while for her in the USA an intellectual could say anything safely because nobody would pay attention in the novel things don t turn out to be so simple and innocent but that is perilously close to being a spoiler view spoilerAdmitting that you belong to a fifth rate nation and to an outmoded era isn t something you can do overnightp.622 is what Robert the Sartre character says to Henri the Camus character close to the end hide spoiler It s a horrible thing, a woman who labors to lead a man s hands to her body by appealing to his mind. The irony of the author of The Second Sex having published this five years after the previous kills me, it really does What s worse is her having won the Prix Goncourt for it, a weighty stamp of approved literature prowess that says nothing less than, yes, this is how you discuss philosophical theories in the midst of love and warfare trot the men out trigger happy and reduce the women to self hating despair I can imagine a younger self of mine picking this up before TSS imagining what would have inevitably resulted makes me sick.Beauvoir did not publicly declare herself a feminist till 1972 I don t envy the life that made her forbear from such a declaration until TSS was nearly a quarter of a century old I don t envy what ignorant bliss the characters in this book must have been in until WWII rolled around and the world transformed into a geography of atomic bombs and concentration camps I don t envy the balancing act they all had to maintain, bandying political agendas and philosophical jargon and standing up for the oppressed via paper, all the while dehumanizing every female within reach and then some Women and men alike, self contempt for one and indulgent solipsism for the other, a mutilation that cannot help but be inextricably mixed with any and all of their good intentions If Beauvoir s portraits of her fellow thinkers are as keen as some say they are, their crises of existentialism and absurdism don t surprise me It s hard to live with yourself when your definition of freedom is sadismIf others don t count, it s meaningless to write But if they do count, it s wonderful to gain their friendship and their confidence it s magnificent to hear your own thoughts echoed in them All that writing about the melancholy of the Portuguese and how mysterious it is Actually it s ridiculously simple of seven million Portuguese, there are only seventy thousand who have enough to eat When I was a child, a teacher seemed to me a much greater person than a duchess or a millionaire, and through the years that hierarchy had not changed appreciably. However Those up there are only a few of many of the wonderful things Beauvoir pens in regards to education, literature, the intersection of humanity with the written word A few years ago, for the sake of these pearls, I might have excused her atrocious double standards when it came to characterizing both shell and core of the gendered dichotomy I even gave her the benefit of the doubt until the last page was turned, hoping this all too rigorous misogyny would be flipped over, left wriggling and wailing on its thickened carapace with its soft and sickening underbelly all too clearly exposed There are instances, perfectly gorgeous instances where the author could have stepped forward and outfitted phrases like these To maintain that I alone hold our affair in my hands is to substitute a puppet for Lewis, to transform myself into a ghost and our past into anemic memories Our love isn t a story I can pull out of the context of my life in order to tell it to myself It exists outside myself Lewis and I bear it together Closing one s eyes isn t enough to do away with the sun disavowing that love is only blinding myself No, I rejected cautious thinking, and false solitude, and sordid consolations You throw men into a war and then, at the first rape, you hang themwith the sharp and incisive insight I knew in TSS that they so rightfully deserve Instead, the malaise extends to all reaches of the third person man and the first person woman, generating a plot with girlfriends in a refrigerator, male characters with not a physical description or unsubstantiated denigration in sight, and the good old colonialist mindset Practice reducing those around you to ciphers long enough, and something s gotta giveI don t want to think about myself any , she said violently I ve had enough of thinking about myself Don t give me bad adviceYou can t think yourself out of feeling alienated You can think yourself into it right quick if you insist on dressing it up in the word freedom , treating your interpersonal relationships like trash, and pretending your work and your money will see fit to care when you re lost and alone and thinking of ending it all You ll be free when you re dead, not only dead but forgotten, not only forgotten but negligible in the impact you made on the reality of others through your ideologies, your habitus, how you lived and what you learned and the whys and wherefores of the things you said You ll be free when what you did in the name of what you held dear is so warped by the ones who come after you that no one will believe the origin of it all was you, and you aloneThe freedom of a writer it would be interesting to know what that means,Beauvoir wasn t free, and so I don t blame her I don t blame any woman who views thought as equivalent to self immolation and conducted conducts will conduct herself as such What I will do is remember my introduction to feminism, when it first became clear that it was not and had never been just me What I will do is not sacrifice my political ideals just because I can t sway millions in a day What I will do is better myself with the ideas and live for the humans, for at the end of the day and the triumphs and the horrors and the same old same old, it is awfully nice to sit down and reaffirm one s existence with someone who cares. I believe this to be her best work It s long, probably too long, but that s a small niggle compared to all that s so good about it The Mandarins gives us a brilliant survey of the post war French intellectual It s accuracy and its objectivity combine to present a dazzling panorama of the men and women caught up in ever changing times As a fan of the existentialist movement this was no brainer for me to read, it s an expression of her unique style, represented with such vibrancy, that differs from the likes of Sartre There are a whole host of extremely memorable wise and life enchanting characters, that were easily likeable, and a crisp and clean translation before my French was any good was an added benefit This was compulsive reading of the highest order A grand work, from one of the 20th century s great female writers. I might be alone in really loving this book I m not sure if I understand what is not to love This book is a bright light in a period of self important post war literature our 1984s and Wastelands in that it carefully avoids the moral preachiness and overabundant heavy handed symbolism by which the supposed major works of this period are so weighed down The Mandarins is a treatise on life in suspended animation when the war ends how does life continue One way to look at it is the book is like a post war tell all, sort of like a woody allen movie set in post war paris Everyone is plaintive, distant, adulterous, self important and mired in the same incestuous elitist artistic literary politcal social life Everyone is sort of pathetic, still reeling from the self righteous throes of the resistance, at once resting on their laurels from the war, but also injured and disrupted by it Simone de Beavoir is an astute observer of the human condition and she sometimes caricatures these shitty aesthetes and sometimes she glorifies them but at the end of the day her portrayal is fairly compelling The book raises some pretty significant questions about how to proceed in the task of finding meaning in a world which has fallen into such destructive violence and depravity How do we raise a family How do we fall in love How do we engage politically This book really has a lot to offer but its really long and sometimes sort of boring But aren t most of the great novels i.e man without qualities, remembrance of things past I think this book qualifies as a real diamond in the rough Compared to all the heavy hitters from its time, it might seem sort of like a light weight And if you judge it by its cover its basically just a liberalized frenchy An Raynd But if you dig a little deeper this is a book that examines the origins of 20th Century liberalism and the collapse of post war morality without a hint of the prejudice and preachiness of its contemporaries The book accomplishes this through the traditional novelistic tools characters, scenes, dialogue, description I can t guarentee you will love this book It might be too tame for you I have to admit, its pretty vanilla But the issues are dealt with thoughtfully and the characters are memorable Just like any great novel A kick ass book that is brutally under rated. Pour l anglais mind blowing , une amie avait propos la traduction qui souffle la t te Simone de Beauvoir m a souffl la t te Les Mandarins, roman somme, roman phare, d crit le cercle des intellectuels de gauche parisiens dans la tourmente de la p riode post seconde guerre mondiale, travers deux narrations altern es une narration omnisciente qui suit tour tour le parcours et les pens es de certains personnages, et une narration la premi re personne, depuis le personnage d Anne, psychanalyste, alter ego suppos mais non assum de de Beauvoir elle m me, qui vit avec un Dubreuilh, copie de Sartre, et qui fr quente un Henri qui ressemble pas mal Albert Camus Aussi, elle va partir en Am rique et rencontrer un bonhomme qui est le sosie de Nelson Algren mais bien s r, toute ressemblance avec des personnes existantes ou ayant exist serait parfaitement fortuite.Sur le quatri me de couverture, l auteure pr cise J aurais souhait qu on prenne ce livre pour ce qu il est ni une autobiographie, ni un reportage une vocation C est bien joli tout a, mais c est quand m me difficile de ne pas tre tent e par l interpr tation autobiographique, d autant que certains d veloppements comportent de vrais morceaux comme les yaourts de philosophie sartrienne ou camusienne dedans Ainsi, Henri et Dubreuilh d veloppent sur la n cessit de l engagement de l homme Et le livre se cl t sur un passage, plut t artificiel, concernant le suicide oui, la seule grande question philosophique pour Camus, qui va contre le principe sartrien d engagement dans le monde, etc D ailleurs, j ai lu de nombreuses reviews des Mandarins par les lecteurs ici, et je dois dire que fait rare , je ne suis tomb e parfaitement d accord avec aucune d elles rien que a, a devrait vous dire que le roman est int ressant il est si riche que chacun y met ce qui lui semble tre juste Cependant, certains mentionnent que cette fin semble d autant plus artificielle qu elle n est pas justifi e par le caract re du personnage, et l , je suis Mais je veux bien pardonner de Beauvoir une vocation de 200 pages, apr s tout, a doit tre difficile conclure.Je papote, et j oublie de raconter l essentiel Les Mandarins, qu en penser Un document extr mement int ressant sur l histoire de l poque Un livre qui rend passionnants des v nements politiques qui ressemblent parfois notre politique de tous les jours au JT C est comme un pisode de House of cards mais au ralenti Petit petit, on en arrive s int resser extr mement ce qui ressemble aux grands titres de nos journaux L URSS a mis en place des camps de travail Oh my, mais comment r agira le Parti Communiste Fran ais La suite au prochain pisode damn Un roman d amour et de voyages Des fois On nous emm ne, sur les traces lointaines de Simone et de Nelson, Chicago, au bord du Mississipi, et puis au Mexique, au Guatemala, au Portugal, en Italie mais aussi dans les petites rues de Paris et pr s du boulevard Saint Germain Et des r flexions philosophiques Et la vie, et l alcool, et la cigarette Et oui Tout ce beau monde est emmen par un style pr cis, minutieux, fouill et m me si pr cis et si minutieux et si fouill que je comprends qu il puisse sembler froid, distant, certains lecteurs, mais comment vous dire C est justement ce style qui a fait de cette intrigue un roman puissant pour moi, et qui m a permis de m int resser au moindre rebond de l intrigue Je me disais oui c est chirurgical, mais c est irr sistible Trop parfait, mais parfait tout de m me Elle a toujours le mot juste, elle d crit des situations simples, des rencontres, des disputes, des amours, avec des termes dans lesquels chacun reconna tra ses propres tourments Sur la v rit de ses descriptions des motions, j ai m me pens aux Tropismes de Sarraute.La narration, comme je l ai dit, est s par e en deux et les p riodes temporelles se chevauchent ou se distancent, ce qui a pour cons quence de mener le lecteur affronter deux fois le m me pisode, travers des perceptions diff rentes ou au contraire, de le laisser sans r cit pr cis d un v nement, qu on devra donc imaginer Ici, a nerve quelques revieweurs, qui disent que Mais quand on crit un livre, on raconte tout Moi j ai aim , d une part l originalit , d autre part la place laiss e l imagination du lecteur, et aussi ce que ce parti pris entra ne une v ritable dimension du temps, et un sens de la r alit Ensuite, beaucoup de chroniqueurs sanctionnent coups d toiles les Mandarins, en se basant sur les personnages f minins Quoi Un roman de l auteure du Deuxi me sexe, et les personnages f minins sont enti rement soumises aux hommes Moins int ressantes que les hommes Ab m es par les hommes J aurais aim vous contredire, tellement j ai moi m me aim le roman, mais non c est le cas Les femmes sont soumises dans les Mandarins d ailleurs, en Chine, les Mandarins sont forc ment des hommes et sinon, l auteure aurait appel son roman les Mandarines, ce qui aurait fait un jeu de mots un peu ridicule mais joliment provoc Je ne me l explique pas Ceci dit, la plupart des lecteurs sont capables de lire des conneries dix fois plus misogynes que a, et ne pas sanctionner les livres pour autant je ne vois pas la raison de le faire simplement parce que c est ce cher Castor qui l a crit C est une source d interrogations, d insatisfaction mais les autres qualit s du texte l emportent, en ce qui me concerne Lisez les Mandarins Cette lecture m a vraiment donn envie d aller plus loin dans les textes de de Beauvoir, en buvant des whiskys avec mes amis des cercles intellectuels de gauche Paris Can t wait. . . This book was absolutely amazing It was written by one of the most brilliant minds of the twentieth century The author was a great philosopher and phemonist of her era I suggest all read this book and any others you can find by her.Enjoy and Be Blessed.Diamond


About the Author: Simone de Beauvoir

Simone de Beauvoir was a French author and philosopher She wrote novels, monographs on philosophy, political and social issues, essays, biographies, and an autobiography She is now best known for her metaphysical novels, including She Came to Stay and The Mandarins, and for her 1949 treatise The Second Sex, a detailed analysis of women s oppression and a foundational tract of contemporary femini


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